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Soul Feast #84: Scarlett Lewis – How to Choose Love While You’re Still in Pain: Scarlett Lewis- Gary Zukav’s Personal Experiences

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In this deeply moving continuation, Gary Zukav and Scarlett Lewis – founder of the Choose Love Movement – explore the interior landscape of Authentic Power: what it truly means to choose love not just as a feeling, but as a conscious act of will in the face of grief, fear, and loss. Together, they trace the path from forgiveness to compassion, and from compassion to personal transformation.

At the center of their exchange is a truth both hard-won and universal: that the frightened parts of our personalities – anger, judgment, resentment, and righteousness – are not enemies to defeat but opportunities for deeper awareness. Scarlett shares how forgiving the individual responsible for the death of her son, Jesse, was not an act of denial, but of liberation – and how that conscious choice led her to feel genuine compassion, and ultimately, love.

Gary illuminates what makes this possible: 

A new level of consciousness allows us to see that we are not our frightened parts. We can observe them, choose not to be controlled by them, and act from our loving parts – even while fear is still present. 

That is the exact moment Authentic Power is created.

What You’ll Discover in This Soul Feast:

  • (03:57) — Gary reflects on why he invited Scarlett back: her response to Jesse’s transition demonstrates what it looks like to face the frightened parts of the personality and choose love over judgment.
  • (14:36) — Scarlett shares the internal process of forgiveness—releasing the charge of an event to move from the pain of the personality into the compassion and love of the Soul.
  • (19:55) — Gary and Scarlett explore the paradox of Authentic Power: the tools of Emotional Awareness and Responsible Choice are simple, but applying them while fear is active is the most demanding work in the Earth School.
  • (22:12) — Gary describes the exact moment Authentic Power is created: when you choose to act from a loving part of your personality while simultaneously experiencing the sensations of a frightened part.
  • (31:55) — Scarlett reflects on approaching painful experiences as a Soul curriculum—turning toward difficulty with curiosity so that it refines, rather than defines, your life.
  • (38:17) — Scarlett invites listeners to visit ChooseLoveMovement.org to access tools for the next generation, helping children learn the skills of Authentic Power so they meet the world with love instead of fear.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

Think of a moment when you felt the pull of a frightened part of your personality – anger, resentment, or the urge to be against something rather than for something. Now ask yourself: what was the loving intention beneath it that you couldn’t yet access? The next time a frightened part becomes active, pause before you act or speak. Ask: what would it look like to respond from the part of me that loves? You don’t have to feel love first. You only have to choose it.

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